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Creating Genesis Music within FL studio.

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:27 am
by deslacoda
Whatever you opinions on the practice, I try to create Sega Megadrive style music in my FL studio software. I use a VST called VOPM and a soundfont to simulate the sound on the hardware within the real machine. I understand that this may not be most authentic way to do it but I don't have the skill to work what I want either way.

However, I was wondering if the people here could help me out with my projects. I want to understand the capabilities of the hardware better. My current understanding of the software is as follows:-

- 4 FM channels, capable of 4 notes playable at the same time.
- 3 PSG channels, unknown notes playable at the same time.
- 1 DAC channel for samples, unknown number playable at once. sample rate roughly 7k

I'd like to know what I'm mistaken in, what I'm missing and perhaps some links to places that can help me create a more authentic sound. thank you in advance

For those interested, here's previous works trying to emulate the sound:

MD mix - Stockholm Syndrome

Original MD tune - Caught in the Void.

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:44 am
by WizardTheme
Wow, that sounds really cool. :D My only complaint would be the bass, which is a little too loud in the mix (on my stereo at least) and could maybe use less tremolo. Other than that, great track.

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:36 am
by Maxim
Chips can use all their channels at once. So there's:

YM2612: 6 channels, all FM or 5 FM + 1 DAC
SN76496: 4 channels, 3 square waves + 1 fixed-freq noise or 2 square + 1 (variable-freq noise or 1/16th duty cycle square)

The DAC can only play one sample but in theory you could software-mix as many as you like. In practice, it'd sound terrible.

The specifics of the types of FM you can do in the YM2612 are quite complicated. It is restricted so worth figuring out (it's rather beyond me) if you want that "authentic sound".

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:33 pm
by Galivan
"Stockholm Syndrome" has nice sound, quite cool. The drums is the only thing that doesn't sound very Genesis-ish.

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:42 pm
by wounderaser
i like it a lot. i also use vopm.
do you have a bank of presets that you import into vopm? i'm looking to get those. i am not too familiar with configuring it and trying to match my own.
basically something that can preset like "bass 1, bass 2, bass 3" etc. i have a small one now called "tone opm files" but they're not good enough.. haha

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:45 pm
by walterhunt
I think those are great! I also like VOPM, and have been using it more and more, as it has 4 operators much like the 2612. For drums, i just rip the drum samples from games I like, such as the somic series, streets of rage, etc.

Here's a terrible example of an early attempt.
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/172557

Re: Creating Genesis Music within FL studio.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:52 pm
by dissident93
So I use random MIDI and put it through VOPM, only problem is the MIDI patch number changes. So I can't keep, for example, a FM bass over the MIDI bass because every time I try to restart the song, it goes back to 35/36 (midi bass).

Any help?